tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-896636951695032019.post5622278155175379426..comments2023-10-15T03:20:52.852-04:00Comments on John McNeill Spiritual Transformation: The Elimination of Celibate Male priesthood in the Roman Catholic Churchjohnmcneill-spiritualtransformationhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/04373030623039716423noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-896636951695032019.post-29208645947575980542021-03-05T01:42:17.001-05:002021-03-05T01:42:17.001-05:00Wow, excellent post. I'd like to draft like th...Wow, excellent post. I'd like to draft like this too - taking time and real hard work to make a great article. This post has encouraged me to write some posts that I am going to write soon. <a href="https://5d.Fitness" rel="nofollow">Spiritual Fitness</a><br />workerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15850147754870410608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-896636951695032019.post-87135597899679402682010-06-12T08:58:05.630-04:002010-06-12T08:58:05.630-04:00Thank you for addressing not only the ridiculous c...Thank you for addressing not only the ridiculous contortion involved in the hierarchy adopting the strained metaphor of heterosexual male priest as groom to his bride the church, but also the entirely post hoc nature of this veneer for their homophobia. One of the aspects of the NYT article that just about made me jump out of my skin was the unquestioned (by the author) statement made about what the church thinks about healthy psychology. The church is entitled to its own theology, but not its own science. Why does Vitello let this go past without comment? It is the kind of subtle or not so subtle distortion that the hierarchy's PR efforts foist on their audience constantly, and the media never addresses, out of lack of sophistication, lack of time, or lack of commitment to objectivity (I am tempted to say lack of balls, but that would be playing right into their sexist world view, now, wouldn't it?). May I plug here my latest post at www.viewfrommywindrow.blogspot.com ?R. S. Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03417677477095492507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-896636951695032019.post-25934664577025662422010-06-11T07:51:06.607-04:002010-06-11T07:51:06.607-04:00If the church in this country continues on its pre...If the church in this country continues on its present course excluding gay men and inviting more and more foreign priests to fill the ranks of a thinning native male celibate clergy, the foundation is being laid for an even greater collapse of the priesthood as we have know it. The lesson does not seem to have been learned by bishops and most seminary leaders that the repression caused by crass attempts to weed out gay candidates for the priesthood will only cause a number of these men to build larger and more ornate closets. The result of repressed sexuality in the priesthood should be obvious. When foreign seminarians and priests are added to the mix, the problems waiting to happen are multiplied. The problem of the closet is still there. In addition to the closet, cultural attitudes to sexuality of seminarians and priests from foreign countries is probably an even greater unknown to seminary officials trying to weed out candidates for the priesthood.<br /><br />Finally, as to the Spirit working from the ground up, a priest and former pastor friend of mine said that a few years ago when the bishop came for confirmation, the leaders of the Hispanic community met the bishop and presented five men they wanted ordained deacons to help serve that community. This Catholic parish in a small rural town had grown about five times larger in the space of about twenty years from the Hispanic immigration. My pastor friend said: “They never heard back from the bishop.”wild hairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08464835061893041481noreply@blogger.com